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A very important article:
Here is an important article that I found:
About the products. Where do I start. At first I tried to get some answers from my friend or people during the webcasts and each and every time I was sent to their website geldocs.com. The website is a joke, there is no science there. It doesn't really say much different than the regular website. It's just them talking about how great and tasty the gels are. Someone has already mentioned it but the geldocs site lists some references but when you actually read them you’ll realise that the references talk about higher amounts of ingredients than the ones in the Agel gels and all the studies about vitamins are studies done on tablets. The company created a clever, scientific veneer that many people unfortunately are falling for (well I was almost one of them).
Anybody who knows anything about human nutrition or physiology will be absolutely dismayed how anyone could come up with such nutritionally worthless and possibly dangerous products.
First of all the gels are heavily preserved with Sodium Benzoate that is also known under number 211. This chemical is present in soft drinks and confectionery products and have been associated with adverse effects ranging from gastric problems, skin and eye irritation, liver, kidney and neurotoxic effects and regarded as possible teratogen.
In addition it is known to react with vitamin C (either naturally occurring or added) to produce BENZENE – an ingredient present in petrol and a known carcinogen. This issue has been in the news a lot recently and is a subject of FDA investigation. There are currently 100s of articles on the net and in scientific publications appearing world wide about this issue and the following are some references:
www.foodnavigator-usa.com
www.commondreams.org
www.ewg.org
It is really sad that a company that supposedly produces health-enhancing products includes ingredients that are known to be dangerous.
Four out of the five Agel products (FIT, EXO, MIN, OHM, and UMI) used to contain a “Proprietary Sweetening Blend” containing, Neotame, and Acesulfame-K. They are apparently have been now removed from the gels (apart from OHM) but they are still present in the gels in Australia.
Neotame is a cheap artificial sweetener that is much worse than aspartame and Acesulfame-K causes cancer in animals. So it potentially can cause cancer in humans.
www.karinya.com
www.mindfully.org
www.holisticmed.com
wikipedia.org
www.cspinet.org
www.holisticmed.com
www.wholefoods.com
That’s not all. The gels contain flavors (e.g green apple flavour in UMI and meringue flavor FIT) that include propylene glycol (ingredient in anti-freeze, and shampoos), ethyl acetate and ethyl butyrate. They are not nice ingredients to ingest every day. Ethyl acetate is in nail polish and cigarette smoke but it is added to food (as well as ethyl butyratate) because it happens to have a fruity taste.
All these horrible ingredients are in the Agel products but they are very well disguised. I suggest that you look at the Australian Agel site as well as the US one.
The Australians appear to have different regulations as far as the labelling is concerned so the product info is more complete. You have to look at the pdf documens as you won’t hear about these ingredients during webcasts or just by looking at the main Agel website.
The links are:
UMI ingredients
FIT ingredients
EXO ingredients
The US Agel product pdfs are here: www.agel.com
Go to each product, and see the pdf documents. Sodium benzoate is listed but the other additives aren’t.
The following is a short summary of what I found out about each of the individual products:
EXO – has a few plant extracts which is OK but also contains the above listed additives and preservatives. Several juice concentrates are in it and we all know to avoid them as they are nutritionally poor. It’s well known that juices made out of concentrates have lower nutritional values. The whole lot weighs only 21g which is very little fruit. They were raving about EXO having a “huge ORAC score” of 800 at some webcast, which actually is not high at all. This is equivalent of a half cup of grapes or 3 strawberries. Certainly not 5 to 6 lots of fruit as it has been claimed by the Agel people. Reference: www.drdavidwilliams.com
By the way ORAC value is not the only way of assessing nutritional value of fruit and veg as it counts only some antioxidants, but if you are after high ORAC score eat just half of a cup of broccoli or have some Eniva that has ORAC score of 2500.
$2 for and EXO pouch seem a lot for tiny amount of fruit extract mixed with a possibly dangerous chemicals.
MIN – incomplete range of nutrients, very low levels apart from folate and vitamin D.
It has only 30 iu of vitamin E. Well you need at least 200 to 400 iu to make any difference. Also only 150 mg of calcium – far too low. I suggest that you read this new independent publication produced by CRN. The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) is a Washington-based trade association representing ingredient suppliers and manufacturers in the dietary supplement industry. There is a good 36-page paper there: www.crnusa.org
and when you read it you will know that you need a lot higher levels of nutrients than those included in the MIN gel.
And of course the gel contains sodium benzoate. Again for much less than $2 a day you can buy a high quality vitamin and get a supplement with meaningful doses of minerals and vitamins. Look at Douglas Labs, Nuskin or Usana. They all great, high potency products.
FIT – this one really stands out. There is some evidence that hydroxycitric acid can assist in weight loss but they put a completely ineffective amount. SuperCitrimax is the active ingredient Agel is using (manufactured by InterHealth Nutraceuticals) and it was shown to be effective in a clinical trial at a dose of 2700 milligrams of HCA (hydroxycytric acid) that is an equivalent of 4500 milligrams Super CitriMax (see www.crnusa.org). Some studies show that you need even more to have any effect.
How much do you get from Agel’s FIT – only 780mg of HCA (1300mg of Super Citrimax). That’s only a quarter of what was shown to be effective!!! Why would you do that? The only reason is to make a cheap product and sell it for a lot of money.
Also the amount of active ingredient in the pack is only 16% (1300 mg of Super CitriMax in 21 g serving of FIT). So the rest (the majority) that is 84% is water, gum, sweetners, sodium benzoate and of course the delicious flavour that contains propylene glycol, ethyl acetate etc. $2 for water and fillers and a bit of HCA? No thank you.
UMI – as ineffective amount of the active ingredient as in FIT. Fucoidan have shown some anti-tumor activity and although there are thousands of anti-cancerous ingredients in nature (green tea, broccoli, grapes, blueberries etc.) there some people who like to take fucoidan. The inhabitants of Okinawa, Japan enjoy some of the highest life expectancies in Japan. They happen to have one of the highest per capita consumption rates of fucoidan. If you want to take an effective dose of fucoidan take NRx-Fucoidan. Go to www.americannutrition.com. Two capsules of high purity fucoidan will give you 600 mg of the active ingredient. From Agel’s UMI you will only get 210 mg of fucoidan per 21 g packet – exactly 1% of the packet’s content. The rest -99% is water, gum, additives, preservatives. Not a bad money maker?
OHM – has a few vitamins, very low potency as in MIN. Promoted for its proprietary blend containing taurine and D-ribose some ginseng and vinegar. Taurine is an amino acid that is important in metabolism. Adults actually produce taurine from cysteine with the help of pyridoxine, B6 so people generally don’t need to supplement but if you want to, the effective dose is at least 1500 mg and up to 6000 mg per day. Good info can be found here: www.healthy.net
Ribose helps your body quickly replace depleted energy levels, and it has been shown to have benefits in the treatment of heart disease and rapid athletic recovery but you need 5000 to 10000 mg of ribose per day to achieve that http://www.essense-of-life.com/info...ies.htm#ribose1
Unfortunately there is only a fraction of that amount of ribose in OHM.
OHM supplies an unknown amount of taurine and d-ribose but it looks like the amounts are nowhere near optimal as the whole blend weighs 2600 mg and is made up of 6 ingredients (that’s only about 430 mg per ingredient).
In summary: possibly the worst set of products that I have ever seen. Low and ineffective levels of ingredients, artificial flavors, dangerous additives, lots of fillers (some products are mostly fillers) and preservatives. And they say the gels are natural.
And what about this miracle gel. Nothing new about it either. Guar and xantham gums combined together. They are a very common ingredients found in jams, deserts and all sorts of foods as thickeners. Gelceuticals is just a marketing gimmick. Perhaps the Noni Juice people should call their products liquidceuticals - that would make their product sell better. Someone might come up with powderceuticals…… Just an idea.
By the way there are other products on the market that are gels and look almost identical as Agel products. The Monavie acai berry blend is also available in small packets in a gel form. There is also PowerBar Gel available
www.powerbar.com After all Agel looks like it is just a “copy of a copy”.
Personally, I think that there is no way that Agel is going to be a lasting business. People might be greedy but mostly are not stupid. I don’t see any value in the products or the business. The top distributors will grab as much money as they can and move to another “best opportunity”.
All this will do a lot of damage though. First of all it will damage the network marketing industry that already does not enjoy a good reputation because of the “get rich quick” approach. Sadly people’s health might be affected, either because of the chemicals in the products or because of the ignorance. I already heard about a lady who has osteoporosis and stopped taking some high potency products and moved to the gels.
On the other hand I also heard that already Agel does not have a very good retention rate as some people already have obviously recognised that the products are like Christmas baubles – shiny outside and empty inside.
Are the Agel vitamins healthy? ..........................................
About the products. Where do I start. At first I tried to get some answers from my friend or people during the webcasts and each and every time I was sent to their website geldocs.com. The website is a joke, there is no science there. It doesn't really say much different than the regular website. It's just them talking about how great and tasty the gels are. Someone has already mentioned it but the geldocs site lists some references but when you actually read them you’ll realise that the references talk about higher amounts of ingredients than the ones in the Agel gels and all the studies about vitamins are studies done on tablets. The company created a clever, scientific veneer that many people unfortunately are falling for (well I was almost one of them).
Anybody who knows anything about human nutrition or physiology will be absolutely dismayed how anyone could come up with such nutritionally worthless and possibly dangerous products.
First of all the gels are heavily preserved with Sodium Benzoate that is also known under number 211. This chemical is present in soft drinks and confectionery products and have been associated with adverse effects ranging from gastric problems, skin and eye irritation, liver, kidney and neurotoxic effects and regarded as possible teratogen.
In addition it is known to react with vitamin C (either naturally occurring or added) to produce BENZENE – an ingredient present in petrol and a known carcinogen. This issue has been in the news a lot recently and is a subject of FDA investigation. There are currently 100s of articles on the net and in scientific publications appearing world wide about this issue and the following are some references:
www.foodnavigator-usa.com
www.commondreams.org
www.ewg.org
It is really sad that a company that supposedly produces health-enhancing products includes ingredients that are known to be dangerous.
Four out of the five Agel products (FIT, EXO, MIN, OHM, and UMI) used to contain a “Proprietary Sweetening Blend” containing, Neotame, and Acesulfame-K. They are apparently have been now removed from the gels (apart from OHM) but they are still present in the gels in Australia.
Neotame is a cheap artificial sweetener that is much worse than aspartame and Acesulfame-K causes cancer in animals. So it potentially can cause cancer in humans.
www.karinya.com
www.mindfully.org
www.holisticmed.com
wikipedia.org
www.cspinet.org
www.holisticmed.com
www.wholefoods.com
That’s not all. The gels contain flavors (e.g green apple flavour in UMI and meringue flavor FIT) that include propylene glycol (ingredient in anti-freeze, and shampoos), ethyl acetate and ethyl butyrate. They are not nice ingredients to ingest every day. Ethyl acetate is in nail polish and cigarette smoke but it is added to food (as well as ethyl butyratate) because it happens to have a fruity taste.
All these horrible ingredients are in the Agel products but they are very well disguised. I suggest that you look at the Australian Agel site as well as the US one.
The Australians appear to have different regulations as far as the labelling is concerned so the product info is more complete. You have to look at the pdf documens as you won’t hear about these ingredients during webcasts or just by looking at the main Agel website.
The links are:
UMI ingredients
FIT ingredients
EXO ingredients
The US Agel product pdfs are here: www.agel.com
Go to each product, and see the pdf documents. Sodium benzoate is listed but the other additives aren’t.
The following is a short summary of what I found out about each of the individual products:
EXO – has a few plant extracts which is OK but also contains the above listed additives and preservatives. Several juice concentrates are in it and we all know to avoid them as they are nutritionally poor. It’s well known that juices made out of concentrates have lower nutritional values. The whole lot weighs only 21g which is very little fruit. They were raving about EXO having a “huge ORAC score” of 800 at some webcast, which actually is not high at all. This is equivalent of a half cup of grapes or 3 strawberries. Certainly not 5 to 6 lots of fruit as it has been claimed by the Agel people. Reference: www.drdavidwilliams.com
By the way ORAC value is not the only way of assessing nutritional value of fruit and veg as it counts only some antioxidants, but if you are after high ORAC score eat just half of a cup of broccoli or have some Eniva that has ORAC score of 2500.
$2 for and EXO pouch seem a lot for tiny amount of fruit extract mixed with a possibly dangerous chemicals.
MIN – incomplete range of nutrients, very low levels apart from folate and vitamin D.
It has only 30 iu of vitamin E. Well you need at least 200 to 400 iu to make any difference. Also only 150 mg of calcium – far too low. I suggest that you read this new independent publication produced by CRN. The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN) is a Washington-based trade association representing ingredient suppliers and manufacturers in the dietary supplement industry. There is a good 36-page paper there: www.crnusa.org
and when you read it you will know that you need a lot higher levels of nutrients than those included in the MIN gel.
And of course the gel contains sodium benzoate. Again for much less than $2 a day you can buy a high quality vitamin and get a supplement with meaningful doses of minerals and vitamins. Look at Douglas Labs, Nuskin or Usana. They all great, high potency products.
FIT – this one really stands out. There is some evidence that hydroxycitric acid can assist in weight loss but they put a completely ineffective amount. SuperCitrimax is the active ingredient Agel is using (manufactured by InterHealth Nutraceuticals) and it was shown to be effective in a clinical trial at a dose of 2700 milligrams of HCA (hydroxycytric acid) that is an equivalent of 4500 milligrams Super CitriMax (see www.crnusa.org). Some studies show that you need even more to have any effect.
How much do you get from Agel’s FIT – only 780mg of HCA (1300mg of Super Citrimax). That’s only a quarter of what was shown to be effective!!! Why would you do that? The only reason is to make a cheap product and sell it for a lot of money.
Also the amount of active ingredient in the pack is only 16% (1300 mg of Super CitriMax in 21 g serving of FIT). So the rest (the majority) that is 84% is water, gum, sweetners, sodium benzoate and of course the delicious flavour that contains propylene glycol, ethyl acetate etc. $2 for water and fillers and a bit of HCA? No thank you.
UMI – as ineffective amount of the active ingredient as in FIT. Fucoidan have shown some anti-tumor activity and although there are thousands of anti-cancerous ingredients in nature (green tea, broccoli, grapes, blueberries etc.) there some people who like to take fucoidan. The inhabitants of Okinawa, Japan enjoy some of the highest life expectancies in Japan. They happen to have one of the highest per capita consumption rates of fucoidan. If you want to take an effective dose of fucoidan take NRx-Fucoidan. Go to www.americannutrition.com. Two capsules of high purity fucoidan will give you 600 mg of the active ingredient. From Agel’s UMI you will only get 210 mg of fucoidan per 21 g packet – exactly 1% of the packet’s content. The rest -99% is water, gum, additives, preservatives. Not a bad money maker?
OHM – has a few vitamins, very low potency as in MIN. Promoted for its proprietary blend containing taurine and D-ribose some ginseng and vinegar. Taurine is an amino acid that is important in metabolism. Adults actually produce taurine from cysteine with the help of pyridoxine, B6 so people generally don’t need to supplement but if you want to, the effective dose is at least 1500 mg and up to 6000 mg per day. Good info can be found here: www.healthy.net
Ribose helps your body quickly replace depleted energy levels, and it has been shown to have benefits in the treatment of heart disease and rapid athletic recovery but you need 5000 to 10000 mg of ribose per day to achieve that http://www.essense-of-life.com/info...ies.htm#ribose1
Unfortunately there is only a fraction of that amount of ribose in OHM.
OHM supplies an unknown amount of taurine and d-ribose but it looks like the amounts are nowhere near optimal as the whole blend weighs 2600 mg and is made up of 6 ingredients (that’s only about 430 mg per ingredient).
In summary: possibly the worst set of products that I have ever seen. Low and ineffective levels of ingredients, artificial flavors, dangerous additives, lots of fillers (some products are mostly fillers) and preservatives. And they say the gels are natural.
And what about this miracle gel. Nothing new about it either. Guar and xantham gums combined together. They are a very common ingredients found in jams, deserts and all sorts of foods as thickeners. Gelceuticals is just a marketing gimmick. Perhaps the Noni Juice people should call their products liquidceuticals - that would make their product sell better. Someone might come up with powderceuticals…… Just an idea.
By the way there are other products on the market that are gels and look almost identical as Agel products. The Monavie acai berry blend is also available in small packets in a gel form. There is also PowerBar Gel available
www.powerbar.com After all Agel looks like it is just a “copy of a copy”.
Personally, I think that there is no way that Agel is going to be a lasting business. People might be greedy but mostly are not stupid. I don’t see any value in the products or the business. The top distributors will grab as much money as they can and move to another “best opportunity”.
All this will do a lot of damage though. First of all it will damage the network marketing industry that already does not enjoy a good reputation because of the “get rich quick” approach. Sadly people’s health might be affected, either because of the chemicals in the products or because of the ignorance. I already heard about a lady who has osteoporosis and stopped taking some high potency products and moved to the gels.
On the other hand I also heard that already Agel does not have a very good retention rate as some people already have obviously recognised that the products are like Christmas baubles – shiny outside and empty inside.
Are the Agel vitamins healthy? ..........................................
posted by Benoit at 9:30 PM
8 Comments:
Ben,
Sorry to hear of your bad experience with AGEL. Mine on the other hand has been very positive. Out of curiousity, i looked at your blog. Your post, "A Very Important Article" was a posting from this site by one named Chris. If you took a look at his links, i am sure you would have come to my conclusions that are listed below.
Once again Ben, Sorry to hear of your bad experience with AGEL. I wish you the best in finding a company that fits YOU! After all, that's what it is all about........finding the company that is right for you! Have a look around here. There are several passionate people who all have found companies that they believe in and call their own! Much success to you!
Great work chris!
I read the links you gave, and for Benzene, it looks like i will have to give up banannas, ground beef, and lo and behold, DRINKING WATER! That sure is disturbing news isn't it? Why are all these interactions with benzene referring to soda drinks? Agel is not soda?
Your second set of links are useless in regards to Agel products, as Neotame has been removed and replaced with Fructose.
Check out what wikipedia has to say about propylene glycol.
Safety
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has determined propylene glycol to be "generally recognized as safe" for use in food, cosmetics, and medicines. Like ethylene glycol, propylene glycol affects the body's chemistry by increasing the amount of acid. Propylene glycol is metabolized into lactic acid, which occurs naturally as muscles are exercised, while ethylene glycol is metabolized into oxalic acid, which is toxic.
NICE TRY CHRIS!!!
With regards to EXO and the ORAC score.......if you had looked at the serving size on your link it was per 3.5 oz. Since Agel EXO has a score of 800 per 3/4 oz packet, or 21 grams, then the total ORAC score for 100 grams would be 4048!! The only thing better on this list you give a link for is prunes at 5770! Good research here!
MIN................. The levels of Vitamin E and Calcium are consistent with that of a typical multivitamin as indicated on the chart in the document you provided a link to. Agel DOES suggest eating a balanced, healthy diet! They don't say "only eat MIN, and forget real food."
FIT......WORKS FOR ME! I have lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks. I don't work out, don't exercise enough, and have changed NOTHING else in my daily routine! NEXT!
UMI................
Here is the amount of Fucoidan in the NRx supplement you referenced....right from their website! 300mg as opposed to 210mg in UMI???? Gimme a break! HUGE difference! And the NRx has ARSENIC in it!!! And you want to put down all of Agel's products?
NRx Fucoidan
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 Capsule Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
U-Fucoidan 300mg
**
(Standardized to 70% U-Fucoidan)
*Daily Value Not Established
At American Nutrition we do our best to keep all label information and supplement facts as updated as possible, however we cannot be held responsible for labeling mistakes or changes. ALWAYS READ THE ACTUAL PRODUCT BEFORE USING IT!
OHM............To provide a boost of energy and provide mental focus!
"Ribose helps your body quickly replace depleted energy levels, and it has been shown to have benefits in the treatment of heart disease and rapid athletic recovery but you need 5000 to 10000 mg of ribose per day to achieve that"
OHM is not used to treat Heart Disease or provide rapid athletic recovery. We are not a "Red Bull."
Power Bar Gel......sure if you want the stimulant effect of caffeine!
Listen, Agel's gel products are just a different delivery system of already proven nutrients. A different approach than pills, powders, or juices. Agel does not claim to be the great magic elixir, one shot cure all for disease! LOL
Great research Chris! Maybe you could tell us what company you are with so i can look for ways to pick apart and put down your products.
If you don't like Agel, then DON'T JOIN!!!!!!!!!!
Bt
Benoit,
On a personal note, but not to pretend that we know each other ;-), let me say congratulations on the very near arrival of your new child. I sincerely hope that all goes well for you and your family.
On the professional side of things, I am sorry that you have had a difficult experience with customer service and I hope that things get cleared up in a timely fashion. I also want to respond to some topics that were mentioned in your blog. Please understand that I am not a diplomat or a salesmen, or even customer service rep... so I’m not going blow sunshine at you. I would simply like to present some information from the corporate view (at least the view from my little corner of it).
To begin, I would like to speak to our product category in Australia. While we are a “Nutritional Supplement” in the states, we are (as you mentioned) a “Sports Food” in Australia. The reason for this is that our manufacturers are not TGA certified. We have not applied for the TGA’s approval of our products because our manufacturing facilities are not TGA approved, hence our products would not be approved. While I will not argue with the idea that new applications are processed within four weeks, I have to fall back to the fact that we have not applied for approval. We do plan to have TGA approved manufacturing set-up by the end of the year and will then apply for TGA approval for our products. The sport food category is being utilized in the mean time and only three of our products meet the qualifications for that category. The use of this category was not to avoid any scrutiny from anyone, but was merely a category that a few of our products fit into to allow us to begin sales in Australia.
We are, as I mentioned, a Nutritional Supplement in the states as well as in much the world. As such, we are required to meet our labeled nutritional claims.
I apologized for addressing these topics in such a random order… please bare with me… ;-)
On to the preservative issue. We have not tested for Benzene, but it should be pointed out that sodium benzoate use is based on a percentage. The FDA allows 0.1% sodium benzoate in Foods/Supplements. A can of Soda is 12 fluid ounces (355 ml) or approx. 355 grams. 0.1% of that is 0.355 grams or 355 mg of Sodium Benzoate. In each packet of Agel products we use 3 mg of sodium benzoate... that's right... 3 mg. That works out to much less than 1/100th of the amount of sodium Benzoate allowable in a can of soda. This translates to a proportionally smaller amount of Benzene, if in fact it is present.
We don't know if the benzene is there or not, but if it is, the amounts are inconsequential. Trace amounts of Benzene are found in virtually all fruits and vegetables. I would suggest that if we have any benzene in our products that the amounts would be no more than what would be found in certain fruits and veggies.
No matter how you do the math, I don’t see how our products could be classed as “Heavily Preserved”. The fact is we had to preserve the products with something. We chose the smallest amount of the least offensive substance we could. I say that understanding that a certain percentage of people will be unhappy with what ever decision we make.
Flavorings. The presence of Propylene Glycol in the flavoring in our products was as much of a surprise to us as anyone. That’s kind of hard for me to say, since I’m one of very few people that should have know it was in there. As it turns out, in the States, propylene glycol is allowed in “Natural Flavoring” as a solvent and solvents don’t have to be listed in flavorings. I find that to be very sneaky on the part of who ever made “The Rules”. We only discovered it’s presence due to the labeling requirements for Australia. Australian labeling requirements state that the flavorings need to be broken into their individual ingredients (probably, due to situations just like this one). As soon as we found out that our flavors contained propylene glycol, we had it removed and replaced it with glycerin. This was a very unfortunate situation, but we corrected it as rapidly as we could.
The Ethyl Butyrate and Ethyl Acetate are naturally derived components of the flavoring. If you eat an apple, or a grape, you’ve just eaten some of each of those compounds.
Sweetening blend. By popular demand and due to registration issues is certain countries, we have removed the sweetening blend and have sweetened our products with Fructose. The Sweetening blend contained Inulin (fiber), Xylitol, Neotame, and Acesulfame-K, but as I mentioned, it is no longer in use.
As the removal of the Sweetening blend and Propylene glycol took place within the last couple of months and we’ve had to cycle through our inventories of each product, the products with the new ingredients are just now hitting the markets.
I am very distressed to hear you mention a lady who has stopped taking her “High Potency” product. No one, Corporate or team member, has any authority to take someone off of their medications… Unless they are some ones doctor, of course. This would not only be Dangerous, but it is Illegal and in any case it is unacceptable. In addition, none of Agel’s products were designed to treat Osteoporosis, or to be a replacement for any Osteoporosis supplement. The vitamins and minerals in Min are US RDI based, for the general public. Anyone with a specific need would have to take additional supplementation.
Packaging and the Gel. Monavie is just down the road got the packet idea from us. (I was around for the whole thing) ;-) PowerGel is a maltodextrin based carbohydrate syrup designed to give a well timed glucose shot to the endurance athlete. Same type of packaging, but totally different product… they did the packet thing before we did. ;-) I believe the Politically correct term for Noni (Xango, Via Viente, etc…) would be a “Juice-ceutical”. That “Cuetical” get thrown around a lot, doesn’t it?
Standardized Extract. The active Extracts in Ohm, Fit, and Umi are all standardized extract. As for the HCA in Fit, if you look a little closer at the studies on interhealthusa.com (suppliers website), the studies state that 1500 mg is an effective dose. Each packet of Fit contains (as you said) 780 mg. The directions for Fit state that it should be taken twice per day. That puts the HCA intake at 1580 mg. The numbers that you quoted are the maximum effective doses and are dubbed “Clinical Strength”. Take it how you will, but Fit has been a very effective tool for loads of people to loose weight.
ORAC of Exo. I have to agree with you on the fact that Exo’s ORAC is not freakishly high. Although ORAC is presented by many people to be to whole purpose of Exo, I designed Exo to have a decent ORAC, but mainly to be a wonderfully diverse product. Exo contains fruits from just about everywhere on the planet. If I were in this just for ORAC, a capsule of Grape Seed Extract (approx. 14,000 ORAC per gram) would do me just fine. ;-)
Singapore. I am very limited in what I can say. I’ll just leave it at there were some broken relationships and it was the best alternative. We are not in any danger of going out of business…
I’m not trying to mend a broken relationship between Agel and yourself. It sounds like you’ve had a rough experience and I encourage you to do whatever is best for you. I simply wanted to take some time to respond to the items above, so that you would be in possession of all of the facts. As for myself and the Agel Corporate staff, while we all need to bring home a pay check at the end of the week, but it has never been any of our intention to do so by being dishonest, deceptive, or misleading.
I’m not trying to convince you or mislead you. You can believe what I’ve written here or not. It’s all up to you. ;-)
Either way, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
Joel Rockwood
Director of Research & Development
Agel Enterprises, LLC.
5252 N. Edgewood Dr. Ste 300
Provo, UT 84604
Ph. (801) 563-3366
Fx. (801) 802-0653
Hi Joel, thank you for your email and your point of view.
I'm not a scientist to really know if this gels are good value for what they are, or if the gels are healthy. I would have to spend even more money to have independent objective opinion and it's too late as I can't trust the management anyway.
Because I'm sure 100% that the Australian team (upline plus directors) did say, that Agel applied to TGA. Even the Directors in a meeting said it in public. So now you are saying the opposite but you will understand that their is something wrong or strange.
Of course it could be a mistake from the Australian management but when they claim to have lots of experiences and be professional, it's a big mistake.
Also in the Hotel meeting the management claim that the gels are great to loose weight, after 3 or 4 weeks they lost 12 kg!
This again is not honest as they know that no health claim can be done with a sport food....
You seems a nice person but in your company some people are not, it's a shame...
Best regards
Benoit
Thank you for your blog. Confirms what I suspected about this company.
Useless products and the whole set-up is just a fraud.
Renata
Great blog, I actually attended an agel meeting where the presenter said that because of the Fucoidan in the UMI, if you take the UMI every day it is IMPOSSIBLE for your body to develop cancer due to the pH level it creates. That made me realize how deceptive these people are when it comes to making money. It makes me wonder how many people have been told it's impossible for you to develop cancer if you take the UMI everyday by these greedy people. Kind of funny though if the company knows some of their top money earners and yes this one is 1 of their top 20 money earners are saying that UMI prevents cancer, Agel would be in direct violation of the FDA regulations for supplements as supplements aren't regulated as long as they aren't intended to treat, cure, or PREVENT any diseases. Hello FDA. It's time for you to launch an investigation on this company immediately!
If you want to know more about the gels may be you should ask independent advises.
Unless you believe Agel management are telling you everything. But then it wouldn’t be an objective opinion.
One day you will realize that because of misleading information lot of people are going to loose time and money.
To be fair to your down line you should do proper research as they trust you.
Are the Gels healthy? Good value? Is it really a new technology? What about their claim of patent pending?
Benoit
I know I made over $2,000 in my first 20 days but then started to find out things about the gel and the company as did many others who came in on the hype of getting in quickly before doing research, that's what the presenters mean to happen when they keep hammering in that you have to run with it immediately or you'll miss it. It really has nothing to do with the money for a lot of us as we were making good money but we found out stuff that made it unethical to keep going.
1 thing I've recently found out is that the presentations saying that Agel has a 20 year patent are FALSE. They have a patent PENDING and that means a patent doesn't exist because it's got to go through an approval/rejection process before anyone is allowed to say they have a patent, thus yet again their is something ILLEGAL that the presenters are saying when they say they already have a patent to add on to the numerous people saying presenters are saying UMI makes it impossible for anyone to get cancer which all of these false statements are really getting sad. Anyway back to the patent knowing what I as well as quite a few others have found out about the so-called technology, it's likely that the patent will be REJECTED thus that part of the presentation will be useless and the "competition-free" environment will be gone.
The heavy hitters are saying "You're not serious unless you get the Executive Kit and you're not serious unless you get an autoship of at least 3 or 4 boxes every month" They know the stuff about the technology and that it's a possibility the Patent will be rejected and they are trying to cash in before that happens. Most of them are greedy people and don't care what or who they're making money off of. If people did research on a lot of the heavy hitters paths through the industry they'd easily see the greed.
Hey Bob, your comment has been published, I don't know what you are talking about, may be refresh your browser...
Benoit
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